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| Any recommendations of one over the other for a sign shop running a Shop Bot? The upgrade price through SB is within $100 of the cost of Art Cam and the 'add ons' we would use. |
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Art Cam vs. Aspire 14 May 2014 15:50
| Hey Matt! They are both very good packages! I stopped using artcam at ver 8, so I'm not up to speed on where it is after that. I use Aspire now, and haven't regretted switching at all. Both will get you from A to B with great results! You have to compare apples to apples though. I believe that by the time you buy the AC modules to bring it up to what Aspire offers, it is more expensive. I switched due to the PIA of having a dongle to remember, plus the monthly maintenance was around $150 month for the updates. If you buy Aspire, you own it. I think with AC your really just renting it. I didn't like the idea of having to insure a dongle. You won't be unhappy either way with the results, maybe just the price! I also didn't like the 'Prove you bought the software before we help you' attitude on the AC forums. BUT.......I haven't been back there in a really long time 8) JWO |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 14 May 2014 16:33
| kinda like comparing shopbot to camaster - each one has die hard users. both are great machines. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 14 May 2014 16:54
| Altogether Artcam is considerably more expensive. I don't think I hear that it is that much better if at all. If I'm not mistake the Vectric people broke away from Artcam. Great value Aspire. I don't think you can go wrong. Mark |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 14 May 2014 17:10
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Art Cam vs. Aspire 15 May 2014 07:11
| One area of discussion that doesn't seem to get enough exposure is support. I'm not talking about a forum or support from another user. That's the dividing line for me. ArtCam has trained experts, and one is assigned to each purchaser of their product. When I come across a step that has me stumped, the answer is but a phone call away. Another real advantage is learning new techniques to solve my problem. It's seldom happens that I don't learn new methods and techniques when I make a call to their support staff. When a person is in production it's necessary to keep the work flowing. That's where ArtCam stands away. ArtCam does offer some special product lines Jewelers and coin makers. Their product line goes beyond Aspire although both are good programs. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 15 May 2014 10:58
| Once again there’s a lot misinformation and innuendos that gets posted to these forums about software comparison. Mat my suggestion to you is download the trial version of Aspire and ArtCam Insignia Try them both and see what works for you, then pick up the phone and call the support rep and valuate that. Again I will spell out ArtCam maintenance, (AAP) this is an optional feature you can purchase, it is not a requirement. If you purchase ArtCam you get any sp upgrades to that version at no charge the same as with Aspire. If you purchase the optional AAP then that includes the major release version as well as updates plus unlimited support by trained personnel, access to the AAP site and more. With Aspire you have to purchase the next major release as it becomes available. Yes ArtCam runs under a dongle, pros about that is you can load it on as many computers as you like you’re not limited with the number of install as with Aspire. You have added security with a dongle. The cons, you need to move the dongle to which ever computer you wish to use, but since most already do that with usb drives is it really a con or just an inconvenience? Gary |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 15 May 2014 11:16
| I also didn't like the 'Prove you bought the software before we help you' attitude on the AC forums. Jamie,I see a number of users running crack versions of Aspire and ArtCam. The people on the ArtCam forum got sick of people with illegal software asking for help how to use it, so it was implemented that you can become verified by registering your dongle # (no different than registering for the forum) its done internally and a verified label is added to your avatar, you can then also access the verified section. I don't know how many times I've seen people with known crack versions of Aspire get help on the Vectric forum. I don't know about you, but when I help someone with software I expect that they legally obtained it so commend the Delcam staff for implementing the verified section on the AC forum Gary |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 15 May 2014 20:46
| Hi Gary, I'm not being flip here, I'd really like to know... I run Aspire because I was a newbie when I bought my CNC and didn't even know Art Cam existed. What do you do that I can't do with Aspire? If your answer is compelling, I might buy Art Cam also. Heck, we are in business and time is valuable. Saved time or better performance pays for a program in a relatively short time if you are in this for the long haul. Take the gloves off and sell me. :Jamie: |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 16 May 2014 20:42
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| Hi John, Just a short bit of history, Delcam commenced in 1977 and is recognized as one of the leading cad/cam developers, actually ArtCam is not their major product division and is only about 19 years old. Tony and Brian who worked for Delcam/ArtCam and left around 2005 to start Vetric with the v-carve 2d software which has now includes Aspire. As of February Delcam became an independant subsidiary of Autodesk (Autocadd is not their main product division either) but both products will benefit from this. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 17 May 2014 11:07
| gary as inviduals reacting on a forum... I don't want to comment.... after I reading sometime my older posts... I should answer differently.. about |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 17 May 2014 14:09
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| yes im ready on another topic after you close it.. before fiery passions come n go :-) |
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Art Cam vs. Aspire 20 May 2014 21:21
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| I've been using vectric. I've meet several of the staff at Vectric and they are all great people. I've had a few technical questions and needed help a few times. If you send them an email you generally get an answer next day. They are on complete different time zone since they are in the UK. There are several ways to get answers in their forums. Plus there are several instructional videos available online. They are helpful. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 21 May 2014 21:23
| Brian, Looks like you have what's needed for your situation. Perhaps I didn't explain very well one of the reasons many of us stay with ArtCam. O, by the way, I have both programs. Aside from rapid assistance I receive there's another major factor. That's the continual learning experience I receive each time I pick up the phone with a problem. If you have Skype the ArtCam pro can see exactly what issue you are having. And can take over, making corrections, or allowing you to while he looks on. It always turns into a learning experience which is invaluable to me. This is the ultimate in my CNC experience. Each of us find their way. My requirements may not be like yours but everyone should know how ArtCam supports their customers. That's often not understood. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 22 May 2014 12:44
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| I do know through the years Vectric has acquired some of Delcam's managers and software engineers. I think Vectic's founder even had a pretty big role in Delcam. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 22 May 2014 15:05
| Brian, Just to set the record strait: Vetric didn't exist until Tony and Brian opened it up a couple of years after they left ArtCam. There was a non-compete clause. I love those guys and their programs. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 22 May 2014 16:08
| Joe, I figured there is some story involved in the creation of Vectric. It always make you kinda wonder when you see a shift of people move from one company to another. Happens in all business. I always have to laugh in a local business market when a new salon opens and the person that opens it takes half the staff from where they where already at. People always think the Grass is greener on the other side of the street I guess. Didn't Delcam get bought out by a large software company recently? I wonder if that will effect their software or pricing in the future? I think of some of the companies and programs that Adobe consumed and spit out to get market share. Anybody out there using Enroute? |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 23 May 2014 05:48
| '''''''Just to set the record strait: Vetric didn't exist until Tony and Brian opened it up a couple of years after they left ArtCam. There was a non-compete clause''' probably that's why they sold on ebay first their products.. |
Art Cam vs. Aspire 04 Jun 2014 10:01
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| Yes as of February Delcam became an independent subsidiary of Autodesk Nothing has changed in operation, Delcam's head office is still based in the UK with offices and resellers in over 60 countries you will find the list of Delcam offices and their reseller partners here http://www.artcam.com/sales-partners.asp Gary |